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Saturday, May 19, 2012

Mountain Phoenix Waldorf Charter School Reviews by Parents

http://www.greatschools.org/school/parentReviews.page?id=2567&state=CO&sortBy=dd&page=2#revPagination

Posted December 31, 2011
We enrolled our daughter at Mt. Phoenix. They promised bus transport from Wheat Ridge to the Coal Creek Canyon Campus, we thought, this is good. Then they told the eighth graders no ball point pens were used & no media presentations would be used in the classroom, we thought, that s odd. On the first day of school, there was no bus and no notification that five students would be jammed into a teacher's Buick, we thought, What s going on here? Then, our child and her best friend were repeatedly bullied. The teacher and principle told us it was my child s fault, we said, Enough! This is a little school in a remote canyon that operates on its own set of rules. I m sorry but I thought that when funded by tax payers, the school had to be worthy of that support! In our opinion, Mt. Phoenix is failing in that mission. Our child was suspended AFTER the October student count. I looked for another school. Everything was infinitely better once we found out about Alpine Valley School. This is best kept secret in Wheat Ridge. For us it was the only logical choice. If you haven t considered this option, you owe it to your child to look into this unique educational alternative!  —Submitted by a parent
Posted August 24, 2011
WORST SCHOOL EVER! We were so traumatized by our experience with this so called school. 12 people that I know of also left this school of 60. Quite a significant percentage.
—Submitted by a parent

Posted April 4, 2011
I had my grandsons there, the first year, they were wonderful and truly wanted to help them and help them become the best they could be. The following year after a admin change, they changed drastically. They no longer seemed to care about the children as much. Seemed more interested in who brought the money with them. One of the upper grads teacher actually lied to and about me and had me removed from the games day. One of my grandson was being terribly abused and all I heard from them was "well, you don't know the whole story" and that was after I was on the playground for recess every day. There are other people who feel the way I do. They are back in the public school and are doing good. But because the education at this school was not up to par, they are behind and the new teachers are trying and doing a good job. I would not recommend this school. —Submitted by a parent

Highand Hall Waldorf School - Open Letter to the Board

5/20/2012
Dear Board of Trustees,

I see a lot of new faces since I was last at Highland Hall.  And, of course, some old faces who are being named as conspirators in my lawsuit against Highland Hall and AWSNA (Hi Laura and Hasib).

I'd like to burden the board with a few questions.
So, my first question to you is... Can you hear me now?  Are you taking me seriously yet?   How has ignoring me and the harm that was done to my family worked out for you so far?  You've made Highland Hall (and Waldorf) synonymous with abuse... not to mention teaching racism.
Do you realize the harm you have done to Waldorf education as a whole?

I see a couple of immediate problems that are going to make things worse for Highland Hall in particular, and Waldorf in general.

First, you've rehired Lynn Kern.  BIG mistake.  She was, as you know, at the bottom of the failed mandated reporting involving Jeffrey Wilkins, the son of a teacher, and Larry W, a teacher.  These were two separate incidents that happened concurrently.  Then faculty members were either kept in the dark (I believe Karen Grant was one of them) or involved in keeping parents from one class from discovering the events that happened in the other class (Lisa Scemema Profumo).  http://petekaraiskos.blogspot.com/2010_03_01_archive.html   Lynn Kern is directly connected to AWSNA - and I have AWSNA on record defaming me to a parent inquiring about my case.   You guys have made suing you very easy... but now that AWSNA is directly involved, I'll be suing more than just Highland Hall.  Lynn is going to cost you even more enrollment in the months to come.  Oh, and just let ANYTHING bad happen in your summer camp.
Second, Ed Eadon has been moved to El Rio Charter... HUGE mistake.  Ed is the poster-boy for terrible administrators.  El Rio has already taken down descriptions of what Ed has done in the past from their blog.  They are also claiming a result in the PLANS lawsuit that is downright FRAUD.  Here's the lawsuit - still in progress as if this week: http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/media/view_subpage.php?pk_id=0000009204 . This is evidence of hiding known information and a problematic administrator from the public.  The hiring of Ed put my focus on the Waldorf charter school system.  I'm expecting Jim Pedroja to show up as an administrator somewhere too.  There's no denying what Ed and Jim have done.  The public attention is only the beginning, but it will probably be enough to get El Rio reviewed.  I've already sent the Charter School Board a letter of complaint.  El Rio is going to have their hands full - especially when I sue their administrator's ass off.  I'm collecting the reviews of Waldorf schools here: http://thewaldorfreview.blogspot.com/ and it doesn't look too good.
Speaking of my lawsuit - I want to really thank you for having published all the material I need to sue you.  Document after document admitting and apologizing for your crimes - it has been a real blessing.  If you don't know what I'm talking about, you should really check out my blog:
http://petekaraiskos.blogspot.com/
especially here:  http://petekaraiskos.blogspot.com/2010_02_01_archive.html

Many of the things Highland Hall did were criminal.  Many more were shockingly immoral.  Many people conspired to cover up criminal activity... and that too is against the law and is a separate crime.  They conspired to tear down Missing Child posters.  Feel free to read the legal documents I presented to divorce court.  The divorce judge even suggested I should sue Highland Hall.

So know that you've got important work ahead of you.  Highland Hall may even be closing their doors soon... that's how big my lawsuit (and your crime) is.   Teachers who were involved have gone from Highland Hall to other neighboring schools, some across the country, and even across the Atlantic.  It matters not to me... I hold you all accountable and so will the courts.  Those schools will come under review too. In fact, I'm putting EVERY Waldorf school under the microscope. http://thewaldorfreview.blogspot.com/ 
Each of these schools has Highland Hall to thank for the focus I've placed on them.
Think about the harm you've done to ALL of Waldorf education with your ridiculous denial of wrongdoing... or spiritual justifications for harming children.  I'm here to save the world from monsters like YOU.

Sunday, May 13, 2012

The Waldorf Review - Parent, Student and Teacher Reviews of Waldorf Education

So, since this blog has been fairly successful (it seems to show up fairly regularly on Google searches related to Waldorf)... it's time to create a second blog... and I've done just that!  THANK YOU for your support!

The Waldorf Review

The Waldorf Review will be a collection of honest reviews and sad stories about people who have experienced the ugly side of Waldorf.  Many parents describe horrible experiences during their brush with Waldorf.  Some parents describe being in a school for up to ten years before discovering the community could turn on them over something very insignificant.

You will notice a lot of the same reviews that have been posted on this blog on The Waldorf Review.  I will leave the reviews in both places for the time being - as it appears this blog gets more hits currently than the new blog.

The Waldorf Review (unlike this blog) allows comments.  Hopefully, parents will feel comfortable describing their own experiences in the comments section.  While meant to be a great resource for prospective parents, The Waldorf Review is also intended to provide a resource to parents for whom the Waldorf experience has ended in divorce.  Minor's counsel's and divorce judges will be very interested to read the sad stories or parents who trusted the Waldorf system - and who were failed by it. 

Hopefully, The Waldorf Review will, in time,  become an excellent resource for parent perspectives of an often problematic and sometimes dangerous educational system.

Enjoy!

Wednesday, May 9, 2012

La Mariposa School - Waldorf Charter - Reviews by Parents

http://www.greatschools.org/school/parentReviews.page?id=12259&state=CA#from..HeaderLink

Posted June 2, 2010
LaMariposa's quality & academics is sporadic at best. There are superb teachers there; however, there are several that are below average at best. The principal's leadership style, devotion to students, and desire to improve academics is poor to below average. The several superb teachers carry the school's reputation.
—Submitted by a parent


Desert Sky Community School - Waldorf Charter - Reviews by Parents

 http://www.greatschools.org/arizona/tucson/3556-Desert-Sky-Community-School/

Posted on Dec 18, 2010
It's interesting how every school review site has an excellent review on this school by parent E... S.. who also happens to be the principal and school founder. Just saying ...

Portland Village School - Waldorf Charter - Reviews by Parents

http://www.greatschools.org/school/parentReviews.page?id=2971&state=OR#from..HeaderLink

Posted April 21, 2012
The parent reviews sum up this school well. For those that value alternative Waldorf methods and community, no homework, do not mind the no media at school and home policy (no TV, Movies, computers and images on clothing/lunchboxes/backpacks), this is a great school. For those that value academics, discipline, learning about technology, and enabling your child to have things in common with and be comfortable relating to kids outside the small Waldorf community, this is not the school for you. For example of the latter, attending a friend's birthday party at Chuck'E'Cheezes is not in keeping with the School's Waldorf methods. Also, be sure to check the School's report card on the Oregon Department of Education Website. I found the School's performance claims to be inaccurate. —Submitted by a parent

Posted October 17, 2011
The school is disorganized. Teaching methods do not allow for different learning styles. They give lip service to Gardner's Multiple Intelligences framework. Teachers halt all teaching of main lesson to practice for a play...for 3-4 weeks. Kids with learning disabilities are not well supported. Teachers are unwilling to change the Waldorf method in order to accomodate special needs. And the school does not celebrate diversity of thought, of cultures, etc. So, if you are of European descent (white) and have children without learning challenges/disabilities, you'll love this school. You can never question the teaching method, because it is always the student who is "behind in some developmental skill". They'll prescribe house chores, mid-line exercises, etc. to enhance the child's learning capabilites. The teacher has NOTHING to change. The onus is always on the child. The school is a great fit if you are from Portland, of European descent (white) and your children do not have learning disabilities.  —Submitted by a parent

Posted January 17, 2011
Very slow track methods for learning and super old school in regards to their philosophy, of course, Waldorf. This school will be a challenge for the modern child and the gifted.
—Submitted by a parent

Posted January 7, 2011
This school might work for you if 1) you don't care much whether your child learns anything, 2) you have a very high tolerance for discipline issues and a very disorganized and unprofessional discipline response, 3) you don't mind rampant flakiness such as the staff (even the administration!) not following written policies, 4) you don't mind whether your small child is properly supervised, 5) you can tolerate inconsistent and unprofessional communication styles from the staff. This school is a nightmare. Run!
—Submitted by a parent

Posted September 24, 2009
The school does not focus much attention on academics and does not have the support or ability to work with children of different learning styles and needs!  —Submitted by a parent


Desert Star Community School - Waldorf Charter - Reviews by Parents

http://www.greatschools.org/school/parentReviews.page?id=3566&state=AZ#from..HeaderLink

Posted May 18, 2011
Desert Star has many pros and cons. If your main interest is knowing that school will be fun place for your kids. This is a good school. There does seem to be a lot of emphasis on extracurricular activities such as knitting, gardening, field trips, painting and drawing, mixed with a bit of music. However, it is lacking in the basic curriculum in regards to reading, writing, and math. There are no text books for each child and most of the work that is handed out is hand-printed. In two years, my child has not had one spelling test nor has spelling been taught as a class in and of itself. There also seems to be a lack of clear organization and direction. I would have to honestly say that if one's priority is in learning the basic educational curriculum, then this will not be the school for you. However, if one's priority is that your child thinks that school is fun and that people are nice and, if that is good enough for you, you will more than likely like this school very much.
—Submitted by a parent


Desert Marigold Charter School - Reviews by Parents and Students


My children attended DMS for many years. The campus is beautiful and the waldorf curriculum is fantastic. However, it seems to be filled with empty promises and lack of follow through. They preach alot of collaboration and community, however, the adults in the community, especially the administration and faculty have alot of growing up to do. They shirk away from any type of conflict, try to ignore it and as a result many families leave after years of trying to work in their 'collaborative community' model. They are not interested in what the parents want, they simply want to push their own personal agendas. I want a school that walks their own talk!!  —Submitted by a parent

Posted May 29, 2009
I was disgruntled for five years. For five years I thought those people at Desert Marigold were not meeting my children's needs. This past year a teacher reprimanded me for taking my child home early. What nerve. Now my children are at different schools. I feel they are conforming more, and meet the state standards for education. Still, I am beginning to wonder if there is more to life than meeting these standards and I wish I had found a way to work out my differences with the administration at Desert Marigold.
—Submitted by a parent

Posted May 27, 2009
If you are looking for a true Waldorf education, you will not find it here. There is a loose use of the Waldorf methods, when they are used at all. I found my children received more of a waldorf style of education by enrolling them in a traditional public school. The head administrator is also painfully absent from all of the daily activities. My advice would be to look elsewhere.  —Submitted by a parent

Posted May 19, 2009
I had my children in DMS for 4 years and every year it became more and more disappointing. I tried to remain hopeful because I believe in the Waldorf philosophy of child development and education, but that is not what is being offered at DMS. My children made great friends while at DMS, but when we left and entered a more traditional school system I realized how ill equipped they were academically. When I think back on how situations concerning my children and myself were handled, I am angry at myself for keeping the children in such a dysfunctional environment. My advice is to proceed with caution.
—Submitted by a parent

Posted March 29, 2009
During the time 5 years that my children attended DMS, the quality of education decreased drastically. There was an issue with one of my children and the teacher involved & administration where not very professional.  —Submitted by a parent

Posted March 28, 2009
We placed our son into DMS 6 years ago as an alternative to public school. Though I do believe he thrived psychologically from the waldorf principles taught at DMS we felt the academics were sorely lacking. We placed our younger son in DMS 3 years ago and while his math skills seemed adequate he was not taught to read. The administrator at this school is rarely seen and obviously cares little about meeting the state standards in academics. The communication between teachers and parents is completely lacking except if the teachers need volunteers or fund raising.  —Submitted by a parent

Posted January 7, 2009
I went to Desert Marigold for middle school. After graduating from 8th grade I went to a regular public high school. I felt really behind academically from the other kids. I made some great friends at Desert Marigold but I really wish I had gone to a regular middle school. Desert Marigold has good extracurricular activities such as sewing,gardening,and art but, they lack academics especially math. I wouldn't suggest sending your child to the middle school.

Posted July 9, 2008
This school needs to chose quality teachers that really care about the education they are trying to get across to the children. We have been at this school for 6 yrs. Its great for younger children the upper grades very disappointing.  —Submitted by a parent

Posted July 2, 2008
We have attended DMS for the past 5 years and are leaving disappointmented in a program of education that we believe, when done right, offers the best education for a child. I urge anyone who is interested in this school to request the right to observe the teacher and classroom their child will be joining. Lack of discipline, educated teachers and classroom management skills is a problem in many of the grades. If you encounter problems do not expect a resolution, from administration or faculty, in a timely or satisfactory manner. I admire what this school is trying to offer but if they are to move forward and become a model for charter Waldorf schools they need to start taking decisive action towards removing administrative and faculty members that are not advancing the growth of the school. Unfortunately that means making difficult decisions that are not made entirely with the heart.  —Submitted by a parent

Posted October 23, 2007
Instruction in the arts is varied and adequate, instruction in math, reading and writing is mediocre to poor. If you choose this school be prepared to supplement your child's core academics. In the 6 years that I have been associated with Desert Marigold I only remain hopeful, not convinced, that this school can provide sound educational opportunities for children. We will not return next year.
—Submitted by a parent

Posted July 16, 2007
My child and I were greatly disappointed with this school.It seems to pay more attention to Mythical objects and Faerie Tales even up into the higher grades. My child said that she felt like she wasn't learning anything.  —Submitted by a parent

Posted May 31, 2007
I have had my child at DMS since 3rd grade. The academics scores have plummeted since entering middle school. The administrator is rarely in the classroom and does not do much to help the children who are failing. I feel since my child has entered 6th grade she has been let down and is now far behind state standards. My child will be attending DMS next year do to the lack of academics needs.
—Submitted by a parent

Posted May 19, 2007
This school lacks academics. It's arts are fairly good but the academics are very poor. Such basics such as math,reading,and writing are taught terribly or bearly taught . Especially the middle school lacks academics. I am glad to say I am taking my child out. If you seek academic success this school is not for you.  —Submitted by a parent

Posted May 7, 2007
The Waldorf Education system is wonderful, but administration at this school lacks the business know how to execute it fully. The school has great potential, the campus and teachers are very special, but the quality of education for each child is hit and miss. This is due to administrative issues - specifically, their lack of support for teachers, parents, and supplies/tools needed in classrooms. More organization within administration would help bridge this gap, plus if administrative staff had more business experience in running the school, the program would improve. Finally, the director needs to be more connected and active within this school - specifically by making making rounds and seeing firsthand how each class is doing and taking active steps to improve existing problems. Overall the school has some great qualities, but if you are seeking a consistent education for your child, research this school carefully before enrolling.
—Submitted by a parent

Posted April 23, 2007
I love the lack of concrete, the trees, the garden and wide open spaces. I love the idea of this school. However, there is a definite lack of discipline in the upper elementary grades. The good things about the school are about breaking even now with the negatives. I don't know if I'll put my child in for next year. But it has so much potential it is heartbreaking.  —Submitted by a parent

Posted August 11, 2003
This school reminds me of the dark ages, long ankle length dresses and all the students are all sang their instructions. My child did not learn anything in the 6 months he attended.
—Submitted by a parent


The next two are 4-Star reviews:
Posted April 23, 2007
The strengths of the school are a Waldorf inspired philosophy and curriculum, and the high level of parent involvement. A nice plus is the farm setting. Overall, the children are allowed to be kids, and are treated as divine souls worthy of the utmost respect. However, the school lacks leadership, a more reliable discipline structure, and a more consistent and experienced staff. It is great for the little ones; I have some concern for the older grades. If you want your middle schooler to be prepared for an Ivy League, keep looking.  —Submitted by Albertina Abouchar, a parent

Posted April 13, 2007
We've been with DMS since my child was 18 mos, for playgroup and preschool. The arts, spiritual, & physical aspects of the child are nurtured well, and there is a lot of love. But the school is run by the teachers, an eclectic group who all have strengths but some severe shortcomings which strongly sway campus life. The campus is beautiful; the community of parents, the lack of commercialism, the organic environment, and the nurturing of the child as a strong and free being are why we came. The abstract, overly right brained processes are why we are leaving. I feel our daughter has done well, but is not challenged. She comes home and wants to do traditional schoolwork. As a preschooler it helped her grow into her body comfortably, but her mind is left wandering. Lack of social structure and discipline has often upset her. We'll miss the parents.  —Submitted by a parent


 
by a parent
Friday, June 04, 2010

Open QuoteMy Children have been attending DMS "desert marigold school" for 3 years, in that time my children have been in grades: kindergarten, first, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, eighth, and ninth

PROS
more accepting of developmentally delayed children
emotionally supportive
lovely campus (this is the best and only thing significantly positive thing about DMS)

CONS
over 90% of the student body is intellectually or emotionally disabled (the healthy students leave)
no advanced classes (the good teachers usually leave within a year)
no average classes (there is literally a basket weaving class for high school)
poor teaching
special ed school
some verbal bullies

Here are two samples of their standardized test scores:
In 2009 the third grade had a 23 percent passing rate, sixth grade had a 36 percent passing rate; 60% to 80% of all students in these grades are failing to pass the bare minimum standards set by the state. These students are failing miserably.

Now compare these numbers with a school that has good teachers, I have found that teachers are the most critical factor, a great teacher with a bad administration still teaches well.

For 2009 every grade at Basis had a 97% or higher passing rate, you can't even begin to compare the top scores of desert marigold vs Basis, its like comparing monkeys with humans.

Some other considerations:
While visiting school in 2010 I found drug paraphernalia (a joint and papers) in the bathroom
My average ability child was the top student in his class
Teachers are supposed to teach the same students from first through eighth grade but it rarely happens

Do not do what I did and waste your children’s precious formative years with a school like DMS, try schools that have much higher quality teachers and students, here is a list of the top schools:
http://phoenix.about.com/library/blschoolscharter.htm

For example:
Villa Montessori - Phoenix Campus
Great Hearts
Tempe Prepatory Academy

If you have a child that is severely disabled: autism, chemical abuse, aspergers, and functioning at 2 or more grades below level, then DMS may be a great fit, but if you have an average or above average child, you will be harming them by sending them to desert marigold school.Close Quote






Saturday, May 5, 2012

Sunridge Charter School - Reviews by Parents

http://www.greatschools.org/school/parentReviews.page?id=12247&state=CA&sortBy=d\
d&page=2#revPagination


The first one was intended to be a positive review - judge for yourself if this is the attitude you want for your child's school:

Posted August 29, 2011
Gaia shown her light on this scrap of earth. A place where all is possible &
nothing expected of our children. Staff, Teachers & parents each a moving,
loving surrogate mother to us all. No stresses or pressures for testing &
labeling our children made by bourgeois capitalists. Come enjoy our gardens.
Each other.
—Submitted by a parent

Posted December 30, 2005
This school evolved from a private Waldorf based school which went bankrupt, has
struggled to reinvent itself as a charter school. Now calling itself
waldorf-insirpered, it has managed to continue on, but make no mistake, when
nobodiey's looking it reverts to the old standard waldorf curiculum. It provides
good solid teaching in the social subjects, english etc., but the science is and
math is sorely lacking. when my kids took the SSAt tests, the shortcomings
became evident. They hadn't been taught much of what was tested ...review the
state scores carefully before sending your kids here...
—Submitted by a parent

Novato Charter School - Review by a Student

I found this honest student review nestled among 95 bliss-ninny one-liner reviews.

Posted November 17, 2011
This school, coming from a student, is a good school, teaches good material, but
is stuck in the 60's. Any use of cell phones, gaming devices or any other
technological thing is forbidden and, if found, confiscated. In the kindergarten
kids get in trouble for, and I quote, "TV Talk". Yes, thats right, even the mere
MENTION of the word "Spider-man" is punishable. Other than this and the issues
with budget (the school seems to be getting poorer and poorer every day) it is a
good school. Worries about kids being teased/bullied, begone! The school has a 0
tolerance policy for things like this. The school is a raffle school with a long
waiting list, so you might need to wait to get your kid in. One of the teachers
(who I will leave unnamed) has an obsession with making kids pick up trash,
which is very annoying. Also, the teachers tend to favor girls a LOT more than
boys, so be prepared if your child is a boy. Last but not least, it has "main
lesson", which is where you learn something, write a draft, draw a final (needs
to be neat, have a nice border, etc.) then draw a picture. Very boring, takes a
long time. Overall, its a pretty good school.

George Washington Carver School - Reviews by Parents

Here's another California Charter school:

http://www.greatschools.org/school/parentReviews.page?id=12328&state=CA#from..He\
aderLink


Posted September 5, 2011
Awful school, negligent teachers, it is small but they still don't work as a
team and academic achievement falls through the cracks. One teacher does more
facebook time with kids trying to be their friends but nothing to make sure they
are succeeding academically.
—Submitted by a parent

Posted November 16, 2007
My child's grades have improved since attending AC. Teachers seem accommodating
and interested in helping their students improve. The temporary site leaves much
to be desired and the absence of a current website is bothersome as it is harder
to stay ont top of current school activities. No sports or social activities to
speak of are currently available. Plans are to move to its newly-built facility
in Jan. '08, approx. 30-45 minutes from the current site.
—Submitted by a parent

Posted November 4, 2007
Sutter Health Expansion Contruction occuring on top of our tiny alleyway
playground (it looks that way and feels that way) does not a lovely, quiet play
area for the children make.... Having a multi-level parking garage to be
operated RIGHT NEXT to our playground is not an ideal health situation for our
children as well.
—Submitted by a parent

Pine Forrest Charter School - Reviews by Parents

http://www.greatschools.org/school/parentReviews.page?id=218&state=AZ&sortBy=dd&\
page=2#revPagination


BREAKING THE LAW!

Posted September 8, 2010
We pulled our daughter out of PFCS 12/09. The teacher was rigid and
unresponsive, the principal and others were at best unethical. We had a very
moderate special need, our daughters challenges were dismissed and worse than
not being addressed the existence of the challenges was DENIED. Our situation
resulted in an investigation by the AZ Dept. of Ed. and an conclusion of
multiple violations of special ed law and federal regulations. As long as things
went their (the school's) way things were wonderful, once we had a need that did
not fit their mold, the first and repeated "suggestion" from the principal was
that perhaps this just wasn't the school for our child. It is also absolutely
true that it totally depends on the teacher you get, we clearly pulled the short
straw, a different teacher and we would probably still be there.
—Submitted by a parent

Posted September 7, 2007
I have concerns about the philosophy of students staying with the same teacher
thru 8th grade. Is this system realistic? If it 'clicks' between teacher and
student, it is great. If it doesn't, it can be negative experience. The school
is inflexible about this subject and brushes off parents' concerns. I had a
child attend Pine Forest K-8, and it was a wonderful experience because the
teacher was open, honest, flexible, compassionate, knew and embraced every
student. I have another child who attended K-4, and I felt that this teacher
judged my child in first grade when the child was young, unfocused and 'chatty'
and never saw them differently after that. Test scores indicate student is doing
great, even excelling, yet teacher gives student 'needs improvement' on their
report card. Did my child become disengaged and stop performing to their full
potential? Would a change in teachers have made a difference?
—Submitted by a parent

Posted April 8, 2005
I choose this school after my child attended Kindergarten at a pubic school. I
was not happy that after only one year my child hated to read. Pine Forest take
a mush slower approach at academics and I am happy with that. I am not happy
with having the same teacher year after year. It has some good points, but also
bad points. I am also not happy with having no voice in the school. The
administration is not in controll. The decidions are made by the Pine Forest
School Board and the College of Teachers. The board is made up of hand picked
people, some not even parents of students at the school, and invited teachers.
The college of teachers are the teachers at the school. They do indeed know best
in many areas of education and teaching, but do not have the ability to speak
for every parent.
—Submitted by a parent

Sunday, April 29, 2012

Ocean Charter School Reviews by Parents

In reading the reviews of the Ocean Charter School in Los Angeles, it becomes
apparent that they made promises they weren't about to keep. Read through the
reviews and see if you notice this trend. At first, parents were excited to
join the community and things went well at first. Then, around 2010, the
reviews start hinting at some issues with the school. The first review in 2010
was pulled, apparently, because it apparently was voicing concerns about the
lack of racial diversity in the school (remember this is in LOS ANGELES).
Reading forward in the reviews, it turns out, parents are discovering that their
kids aren't being educated, that the administrators aren't accepting input from
parents (only volunteer work), that parents are pulling their children out in
groves, and that half the teachers staged an exodus. Many of these symptoms are
TYPICAL of Waldorf schools. There's even a hint of Waldorf dividing a wedge
between working parents.

Here are a few of the critical comments. I'll let readers go to the reviews for
the apologia.

First the review apologizing for the lack of black kids (but hey, we have
English, Irish, Polish, even Asian kids... same thing, right?)

Posted January 29, 2010 - I am so sorry to hear that last review. It is true
that OCS doesn't have the number of African American children and Hispanic
children that is reflective of Los Angeles, but my daughter's class has children
whose parents are from Asia, England, Ireland, Poland...so there is diversity in
a sense. Plus, we have the most active diversity committee ever. They are
reaching out to the community. All who get into OCS get in through a lottery
system so it is not like the school itself controls who gets in. I have found
the school truly wonderful. I love that the school stresses the importance of
play and homework is not assigned until 2nd or 3rd grade, yet test scores are
among the highest of all comparative schools.

Posted February 1, 2010 - It's too bad they don't use a lottery and factor in
race (like the magnet schools) to get a hetergeneous community w/in the
classroom. You can have diversity committees all you want, but if children are
not mixing with different races on a daily basis inside the classroom walls,
then the school is not walking the talk.

Posted February 6, 2010 - I think that there is a large difference between the
lower grades and the upper ones at Ocean. While I really like the 'whole child'
approach in the younger grades, the upper grades suffer from the lack of rigor
in the academics. The upper grades are well behind other schools in mathematics
and writing, and they rarely do such basic things as book reports. Considering
this continues through the 8th grade, the students are seriously disadvantaged
when they move on to the high school level. While I will agree that parent
involvement is high, the parent body (and students as well) are very cliquish.
In addition, while they mean well, the parents are completely disorganized.
Events such as field trips or even day trips are always thrown haphazardly
together at the last minute, or cancelled due to lack of planning.

Posted March 18, 2010 - The school is not orriented, or particularly friendly or
accepting, of dual-parent working households, or single-parent working
households. Parents who cannot spend as much time on campus or at school events,
or donate as much time and money, are ostracized by this cliqueish 'community'
and that trickles down to the way students are treated and treat each other. The
school espouses to have liberal, child-friendly values, but in practice is
elitist and unwelcoming. My child will not return next year.

Posted June 4, 2010 - From initial observations, Ocean Charter School is a
wonderful place for learning, most especially in the younger grades. But upon a
closer review of the school organization, the administration, faculty and
community meetings, and the relationships among the students, one begins to
observe some major problems within this charter school organization. To begin
with, the administrtative team of Mrs. Stephanie and Mrs. Kristy (neither of
whom possess proper Admin. Credentials), have a gross reputation of incompetence
among the faculty . These two self-empowered individuals blatantly disguise
their ineptitude with smiles and other deceitful pleasantries. One egregious
example is the fact that new teachers are not provided with a school handbook
with accountable policies about the curriculum and for professional evaluations.
As a result, the Administration operates under a very non-transparent screen
that allows them to make decisions with no managerial oversight or
accountability. Look closely & you'll be sadly surprised.

Posted September 9, 2010 - I would really like to hear someone speak to the fact
that the parents of so many returning 6th graders have chosen to leave Ocean
Charter this year.

Posted September 16, 2010 - Ocean Charter had great potential. When it first
opened it relied heavily on parent involvement, not just for their own
children's experience but for the development of the school. Teachers and
parents working together to actually create a school--just what the charter
movement is about. The current board chair and administrators as leaders have
hidden everything with their goal of running a school with no interference from
anyone. With them at the helm, parents have no voice but are only asked for
money and sweat. The biggest problem is that they have no professional capacity
to run a school and the result is that every year, half the teachers leave. And
forget the middle school--no resources devoted to it and new teachers constantly
coming in.

PK: I just love this... someone copied the school brochure as if it was a
"review"...

Posted October 15, 2010 - Give me a break! That last post is verbatim what the
advertising materials of the school say. Certainly not a spontaneous parent
review.

PK: This review makes my point...

Posted February 24, 2011 - In reading the reviews from2005-2009 I really must
say how great we thought the school would become but alas 50 point drop in STAR
and more then half the 6th grade left rather then suffer another year of
ineptitude, and more left at the spring/fall semester shift. The middle school
is a sinking and stinking ship with an administration that covers their
inability to lead with "concerned" nods and "smiles"and fire most of the middle
school teachers year after year.

Posted June 7, 2011 - OCS is a lovely place and there is a really nice community
here. The plants and gardens are beautiful. Parental involvement is huge for
fundraising and community events. Waldorf curriculum is gentle and loving,
although the Waldorf rituals can feel secretive. What really disappoints me
though is the lack of academic substance in the upper grades. I was told that
Waldorf starts slow in the lower grades (which I love and think is done well at
OCS) then soars past conventional schools in the upper elementary school grades,
but this is not happening at OCS. The administration is unresponsive and
unapologetic about this. I know a number of parents who are very troubled by the
slacking academics and are pulling their children out, paying for private tutors
or doing semi-home schooling because they know their children are behind and are
missing out. It's a great school if you want a nurturing, progressive community
and a beautiful school, but if your child loves to learn and you want them to
have a good, solid academic education this is not the place. Transfers out of
OCS say that their children were significantly behind. I don t know how this
warrants an 8 rating.

PK: Even the positive reviews reveal problems:

Posted September 2, 2011 - I have 3 children at OCS and they love this school.
Just like any place it has it's issues that are mostly addressed quickly and
with passion. If you want a place that will barely watch your kids, much less
educate them, put them in just any old public school. If you are looking for a
place that has an extremely active, intelligent curriculum and incredible parent
involvement then OCS is perfect for you. OCS has had their fair share of
administrative problems in the past. There always seems to be one or two very
intense and often irrational parents that have nothing better to do than
complain about the little things that bug them about various administrators or
teachers. The majority of the parents, though, truly admire the efforts of the
school administration. I just think that an alternative school such as OCS tends
to attract very passionate and opinionated parents who think the school is
something that it is not. Again it's not for everybody. You know what's best for
your family. We have been through quite a lot of ups and downs with this school
yet we feel very fortunate to have discovered it.

PK: Love these next two...

Posted November 16, 2011 - lovely school...if you are rich. don't go if you're
not!!!!! the principal told a homeless mom 'have a nice vacation". pretty sure
homelessness is not a vacation!

Posted November 19, 2011 - What is the last poster talking about? Homelessness
is like a permanent vacation. Seriously, though, do you think the principal
would tell other families, "Have a nice vacation." And, then, point to the
homeless mom and say, "Oh, you poor dear. Good luck to you finding a home over
the holiday." Give me a break.


It's clear that Ocean Charter School is going the route of independent Waldorf
schools. Once again, problematic former Highland Hall teachers are listed on
the faculty, and of course our friend Joan Jaeckel serves on the board.

http://www.oceancharterschool.org/faculty.html


Public charter schools have to make their meeting minutes public. Let's have a
peek at Ocean Charter School's, shall we?

Looks like there was, indeed, a mass exodus:

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnxvY3Nib2FyZ\
GRvY3N8Z3g6Mjk3NTM1M2M3YmRiNThhYg


*Finance
Enrollment is below the current OCS 2011-2012 budget by 40 students which is
approximately $5,000 per student loss of ADA, however, our higher ADA percentage
to date of approximately 96% versus budgeted 95% could help alleviate part of
the loss if attendance continues at that rate.

Any chance of a normal public school teacher working at this charter school?

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnxvY3Nib2FyZ\
GRvY3N8Z3g6NGYxZGQ4Yzg1NTJhYzc3Zg


*MOTION: "OCS will require that all of its class teachers be Waldorf-certified."
Motion passed.


The loss of students is taking its toll:

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnxvY3Nib2FyZ\
GRvY3N8Z3g6YTkyMzhiNDQzZDI5OGUy


*Finance
Despite the additional students enrolled for the 2011-
2012 school year, the cash we will be funded through January 2012 is based on
our 2010-2011 Average Daily Attendance (ADA), thus furthering our need to rely
on cash surplus until funding levels are adjusted to actual enrollment.

A revised loss of $45,000 is forecasted through 2011-2012 fiscal year-end,
primarily based on lower student ADA and increased Special Education costs.


Diversity? No rush. Let's take a little time to think about this:

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnxvY3Nib2FyZ\
GRvY3N8Z3g6MjFmYmJlNzkzZTQ4YjU5Mw


*Discussion on Title I for Enrollment Lottery
Title I refers to families who are eligible for Free and Reduced Lunch, based on
income levels. Besides honoring our mission and vision to "…educate children in
a multi-cultural, urban environment…", "…informed by the Waldorf educational
approach…",
implementing a Title I preference could be critical for our Walgrove RFP and
Charter Renewal. [Board member] strongly believes that a Title I preference is
necessary to show how we will serve the community in our RFP, and having our
charter renewed for
another five years, as it would reflect our commitment to improve our current
lack of diversity. OCS would need to provide services such as Free and Reduced
breakfast and lunch as well as before and after school care. Providing before
and after care services for
Title I students would be an additional OCS expense, however, we can be
reimbursed for the meals. [Board member] clarified that 20% of OCS students
already qualify for Free and Reduced Lunch. OCS would not be eligible for Title
I funding until at least 40% of our students qualify.

[Board member] shared that during her Diversity outreach efforts, she found many
minority families interested in the OCS educational philosophy but discouraged
by their lottery odds.

Board members discussed the costs of services to support Title I students, the
potential impact on Annual Family Giving, and overall volunteerism. Many
expressed a concern about implementing the preference this year, when we have
increased class size by eight
students, and questioned why it needed to be done so quickly. Board members
asked how the Title I preference would fall in the order of existing
preferences, and would like to hear a plan made with the faculty to support
these new students and their families.


Remember, they need 40% of students in Title I to qualify for state money.

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnxvY3Nib2FyZ\
GRvY3N8Z3g6NDRhNjUwNDUwOWM3YjFjYQ


*MOTION: that the Board adopt the following resolution:
The OCS Board of Trustees resolves that the following shall be given preference
for admission to OCS:
1. Children of school faculty and staff (not to exceed 10% of openings)
2. Children of board members (not to exceed 10% of remaining openings)
3. Siblings of enrolled students (no cap)
4. Title I eligible students (not to exceed 42% of remaining openings)
5. Residents of LAUSD (no cap)
Preferences shall be given in the above order. The preference for Title I
eligible students shall remain in place until the percentage of Title I eligible
students meets or exceeds 42% of total OCS enrollment.


There's more here:
http://sites.google.com/site/ocsboarddocs/approved-minutes-2011-2012

UNDERVACCINATED?

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-immunization29-2009mar29,0,3148179.story


A rising number of California parents are choosing to send their children to kindergarten without routine vaccinations, putting hundreds of elementary schools in the state at risk for outbreaks of childhood diseases eradicated in the U.S. years ago.
...

A Times analysis found other concentrations on the Westside, the Palos Verdes Peninsula and the central Orange County coast, and in the southern San Fernando Valley.

At Ocean Charter School in Del Rey, near Marina del Rey, 40% of kindergartners entering school last fall and 58% entering the previous year were exempted from vaccines, the highest rates in the Los Angeles Unified School District.

Administrators at the school said the numbers did not surprise them. The nontraditional curriculum, they said, draws well-educated parents who tend to be skeptical of mainstream beliefs.

"They question traditional knowledge and feel empowered to make their own decisions for their families, not deferring to traditional wisdom," said Assistant Director Kristy Mack-Fett.

UP FOR GRABS?
http://www.argonautnewspaper.com/articles/2011/07/28/news_-_features/mar_vista/m1.txt

Mar Vista -  May 3, 2012

Ocean Charter turns to its neighbors to help rally support in bid on proposed charter school site at Walgrove 
On July 23, Ocean Charter parents fanned out in the surrounding neighborhoods of Mar Vista to make their case for acquiring the space on a campus where they colocate with the elementary school. “As you may or may not know, LAUSD has put our north campus site up for grabs for any charter school that’s interested. They will be issuing a request for proposal in the next week or so to interested schools and will be voting on who gets the site just days after those proposals are turned in,” Gary Adler, a parent of two Ocean Charter children, wrote in an email. “A small task force of motivated parents has been formed to unify us in our proposal and our community outreach.

Karen Wolfe, a Venice resident who transferred her son from Ocean Charter this year, thinks it may be a case of too little too late to garner a great deal of community support for the school.

“It would be an impressive feat if they were able to get the neighbors to support (them in the land lease bid),” asserted Wolfe, whose daughter will be attending fourth grade in September at the Walgrove campus. “There have been authentic, meaningful opportunities for them to have done this years ago, and it would be a real shift from the ‘us vs. them’ mentality that has been pervasive there for years.”




 PK: Looks like my blog post for Ocean Charter School appeared JUST IN TIME!

Ocean Charter Ignores problems - Removes critical comments from blog - Can't get along with neighbors

http://theopendaily.com/schools/ocean-charter-school-seeks-community-input-on-proposed-school-project

Karen 
There is so much unsaid on this blog; it's like a typical Ocean Charter meeting. First, it's run by an Ocean Charter parent, James Brennan. That disclosure seems important. Also, OCS parents are taking acception to neighbors "taking it upon themselves to post negative comments about OCS. This is a public process and that's not a comfortable setting for OCS.
Lance, your comments are obviously sincere but you don't mention that you, like dozens of OCS parents, withdrew your children from OCS after 5th grade. The community is looking for an alternative MIDDLE school. OCS should at least demonstrate an ability to do a respectable job of being a middle school. But it fails by numerous measures and before millions of dollars in resources are given away by the district, it's important to evaluate their track record and not just whether their kids are polite to neighbors.
The school leadership has ignored serious, documented problems with the middle school year after year and it does a disservice to the public discourse to fail to acknowledge that at a time when OCS is asking for substantial public resources. I wish OCS had dealt with those matters in meetings with OCS parents, but now it's relevant to this broader community discussion. 1)OCS misrepresents the situation by claiming in their neighborhood flier "steadily rising test scores in the range of 855 to 896 for years 2009 and 2010." The test scores DROPPED from 896 to 855. Even if test scores are not the only indicator of academic achievement, I have yet to find ANY westside school that has failed on that scale. 2)OCS lost nearly half their teachers last year. That would be scandalous at most schools. 3)OCS claims to do a good job with special education. TRUTH: Many families of students with special needs have been counseled out, even those that are cheerleading this RFP. 4)OCS has couched severe budget cuts as just another school facing budget cuts. But an entire 7th grade class was eliminated for next year because so many students withdrew, including mine midyear. That lost revenue surely has an impact on OCS's overall budget.
Ocean Charter could be using this public process as a reason to clean house. Instead they're spinning information to make it look like they're the best candidate, and showing no indication that they'll fix things. But no amount of spin can take away the actual track record of a school that's been open for 7 years.
Finally, OCS--and lots of charter parents--would do well to recognize that while we were reforming outside the system, plenty of teachers, administrators and parents were reforming from within our public schools. Rather than begging the neighborhood to come and visit OCS, OCS parents should be visiting other neighborhood schools. You might be very surprised!

Sandi
Ocean Charters proposed plan would create an even worse traffic nightmare for the residents by adding an additional 500 students (k-8). I know they saying that they only have 350 students but the proposal by lausd is for 500 seats so once that site is finished they will most certainly fill it and if they do not then lausd can fill it with another charter school (according to prop 39 and it's amendments). Walgrove will also still be subject to co-locating with another charter as lausd is required by law to offer any available space to all charters who apply, which could mean 3 schools being housed on that campus. After the free standing classrooms come down next year per a state mandated law there will still be 3 classrooms available. A charter only needs 80 kids to apply and be offered space.
OC supporters are going around the neighborhood now trying to get a petition signed and telling people that their poor students will not have a place to go in a year if they do not win this proposal. Seriously? That is ridiculous! Everyone knows it will take at least 3 years to build and if they do not have a back up plan for where they are going after next year then how do they expect parents to have any faith in their abilities to run a school?
I, and many of my neighbors, are adamantly opposed to any charter school being built on that campus at all. It is demeaning for the students of Walgrove having to look over at a brand new campus while their own campus still needs work. I do not agree with our taxes being spent on building a new school while our neighborhood schools still need so much work. Lets upgrade what we've got first and make our current schools better.
It's much easier for lausd to sit back and collect the rent from the charters rather than make the effort needed to make necessary changes. That's why there are now more charters in lausd than other school system in the country. It's not time to give up our schools to charters, it's time for change.
Read about the high turnover rates at charter schools in the newest LA Times article here: They are not without problems either.
http://www.latimes.com/news/lo...

Troy
Gary,
I understand that we are both public schools and I hope for the best for your school, but I do take issue with the fact that OCS is sending out press releases that tout the great relationship between Walgrove and Ocean Charter.  I find this disingenuous.  I believe that the majority of children, parents, staff and teachers would characterize our relationship as poor.  In fact, I know several OCS parents that would do the same.  To give examples such as a reading program that has not existed in years, a garden where OSC has half and Walgrove has half, a breakfast that happened once in 5 years, etc is stretching the truth at best.  To say that Ocean Charter parents can't help double parking because you have to enter through one gate is false.  There is plenty of parking on the street that you enter (appleton way) and Walgrove parents do not double park on Morningside and we enter through a gate on that street.  To say that there will be LESS traffic by adding 200+ students is a bit of an odd argument.
I would be happy to meet with you so that you can explain how OCS is going to do it better next time, but it is not me that you have to convince.  You have to convince the rest of Walgrove's children, teachers, parents, staff and neighbors. I would love for OCS to be better neighbors, but first you have to own the fact that OSC has not been a good partner in the past.
If not me, please listen to the Walgrove first grade teacher that emailed me.  Read it and take it to heart.
Cheers,
Troy

Troy 
here is an email that I received from one of the teachers at Walgrove...
Thanks Troy for keeping us informed! The OCS claims of collaboration through their existence at Walgrove is pure B.S. and could easily be debunked by all the Walgrove staff. I personally have been disrespected by their students many times and never acknowledged by any of their staff! To the point where I felt unsafe during my pregnancy because I almost go knocked down several times by their students that always run through common shared areas! We get also get mocked by their students when we try to speak to them. Their whole claim of "buddy reading across grade levels" was done with Zeena's class maybe for 2yrs, not with anyone else. You could go up to every Walgrove teacher and find out for yourself within seconds. The whole garden thing... they have their area and we have ours. We don't do anything together with that. We are forced to share the space and that's it, same with the auditorium. We have bent over backwards when they've needed it during our scheduled time but they're always rude when we need it. Ugh.... Ok I'll stop because you know all of this and I know I'm preaching to the choir. I just really wanted to personally thank you for all your efforts and support of our school. I do appreciate everything you do!!!!

Troy 
As a parent of two children that attend Walgrove Elementary I have to say that our relationship with Ocean Charter is strained at best. There is little collaboration between the schools and a lot of animosity. Both Walgrove students and teachers find them rude. Ocean charter also has a terrible relationship with the neighbors because of traffic problems that they cause. When confronted with complaints they made excuses and did not change their behavior. Now they want to build a new building and are suddenly concerned with us? I have nothing against their school, but I am hoping that they will no longer be our neighbors.